Dear Editor:

It has just come to my attention by an email and video from my good friend from Arizona that the average American worker working from High School to 65 can expect an average benefit from Social Security of $1,400 plus change per month, but the Biden Administration is paying the illegal wave crossing our Southern border paying them $2,200 per month. What in God's name is President Biden thinking? And I ask you critics out there - why are you a Democrat and why are you supporting Joe Biden??? How can this be fair to the average worker and rank-and-file union member???? I await your response!!!!

Note: I was a Union member for 31 years- mandatory membership was required and paying dues monthly was required (the highest as I recall was $175 per month) - this was an agency shop and if dues were not paid firing from the company was in the immediate future. This is far from freedom of choice. What say you?

Regards, and blessings

John Stiegelmeyer

Vinton

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OS September 25, 2023, 12:56 pm https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/immigration/undocumented-immigrants-2200-monthly-payments-fact-check/536-69387900-404a-441b-8f17-20d30dc93c4b.
Don't believe everything in your e-mail, John.
RS September 25, 2023, 1:09 pm John,

Just because a friend emailed you something does not mean that it is true and should be passed on without verificaton. NO, THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS NOT GIVING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS $2,200 A MONTH.

A quick search on the internet has produced multiple sources debunking this statement. A few of those links are below. The original statement came from the vaping and groping Rep. Boebert, a source that should have raised concerns right away.

This is what wrong with our society now. People see something onsocial media and send it out without if checking to see if it is true. Others read it and pass it on as fact.

John, as intelligent as you think you are, you should know better.

https://www.heraldnet.com/opinion/fact-check-no-migrants-arent-getting-2200-a-month-from-u-s/

Everett Washington

https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/verify/immigration/undocumented-immigrants-2200-monthly-payments-fact-check/536-69387900-404a-441b-8f17-20d30dc93c4b

2wgrz.com Buffalo NY

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/05/fact-check-do-refugees-get-more-benefits-than-social-security-recipients/5948233001/

American Statesman Austin Texas

https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/immigration/undocumented-immigrants-2200-monthly-payments-fact-check/536-69387900-404a-441b-8f17-20d30dc93c4b

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RB September 25, 2023, 1:25 pm Please supply a link where Biden is paying illegals $2200/month or is this more of your unfounded ramblings?
PS September 25, 2023, 1:39 pm Dear John...

a) Regarding social security benefits and immigrant benefits:
* Immigrant benefits include Supplemental Security Income (SSI), Supplimental Nutritioon Assistance Program (SNAP), Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), and Emergency Medicaid (including labor and delivery).
* All of these benefits are available to every needful person in the USA regardless of immigration status.
* Comparison of these mainly temporary humanitarian benefits with the guaranteed lifetime benefits of social security retirement is unfortunate, misleading, and misguided.
* Quoting an average social security benefit for someone who started working after high school 50 years ago is just plain wrong. Changes in wage levels, consumer prices, post-HS education/training, differing needs of 20-somethings compared to retirees, make your comparison not just apples-to-oranges, but more like apples-to-screwdrivers!

b) Regarding union concerns:
* It sounds like you voluntarily stayed in a situation involving your loss of freedom for over 30 years.
* I assume this was a situation where you continually reviewed (and accepted) the costs and benefits of union membership. I admit that perhaps you are simply a living example of the thoughts behind Meredith Willson's "Iowa Stubborn" song in the production of "Music Man"?

-Paul Smalley, Vinton
DL September 25, 2023, 1:41 pm I searched our government's website, and found the following:
(๐™„ ๐™™๐™ค๐™ฃ'๐™ฉ ๐™ช๐™ฃ๐™™๐™š๐™ง๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™™ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ฌ๐™๐™ค๐™ก๐™š ๐™Ž๐™Ž๐™‰ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™œ. ๐™ˆ๐™–๐™ฎ๐™—๐™š ๐™จ๐™ค๐™ข๐™š๐™ค๐™ฃ๐™š ๐™˜๐™–๐™ฃ ๐™š๐™ญ๐™ฅ๐™ก๐™–๐™ž๐™ฃ)

-Some illegal immigrants have SSNs. It is these folks, that if they have income in our country, they're eligible for an annual payment through the ๐˜Š๐˜ˆ๐˜—๐˜ and ๐˜Œ๐˜๐˜›๐˜Š programs. Those are one time payments per year, as long as the can report income.

-No undocumented immigrant receives any money from any federal government program.

-I can't find any information on $1400/month being an average Social Security payment. I do have a worksheet that reports that someone working from 18-65 at minimum wage would be eligible for $1650 - $1700 at time of retirement. (Based on figures in 2017)

It seems like anyone that cares to find truthful answers to their questions, would want to be a Democrat. As the alternative doesn't promote truth in hardly anything.

Good Day
GB September 25, 2023, 6:50 pm If anyone doesn't believe millions upon millions of illegal migrants flooding into this country isn't going to to receive billions of tax payer dollars in free handouts, tax incentives food stamps and free housing, they are crazier than the geriatric patient we have in the White House.
JS September 25, 2023, 7:36 pm I am sorry I can not give you nay Sayers a link. However this was on Tucker Carlson program. Not sure where he is anymore since he was fired from Fox. But this was a Tic Tok video. I stand by what I said. There is no doubt that the Biden Administration is allowing these illegals passage all over our Nation. Some have been transported by Gov. of Texas but many have also been transported by contract aircraft paid for with you tax dollars. I am not surprised you could not find a link. But I am surprised that you could believe these illegals are not supported in some way with you tax dollars. There have been reports that when offloading the bus they were given a cell phone. I can not verify this, but I do believe it is possible. These people in charge are not Constitutionalists but I firmly believe are Marxists intent on destroying our Republic.

You who are so quick to defend Joe Biden are Blind to what is really happening to our Country. I am of the belief that the Real Americans are in a losing battle with the leftist, woke, Marxist Democrats. Be more watchful of you criticism. Why are you so quick to defend the indefensible???
Regards,
John Stiegelmeyer
SG September 25, 2023, 8:32 pm Maybe the question is for everyone is this. If John has it wrong, how much ARE illegals getting? How much is the hotel room in NYC for example? They all get a phone, how much is that? They have to eat, how much is that? Give me a number.
PK September 26, 2023, 1:46 pm Anybody who believes these millions and millions of illegal immigrants aren't costing the taxpayers BIG BUCKS need to get a reality check. And they are destroying the appearances of our cities and
our states. They get three meals a day. Do all of our poor families and our seniors get the same? Biden welcomed them here from day one. Now he ignores the huge problem by sweeping it under the "Welcome" mat. [Out of sight; out of mind.] Right, Joe?

Biden's supporters are out of touch with what's going on in this administration. Let Joe return to teaching at the University of Pennsylvania. Apparently he was a big deal there.

We need someone new in the White House: Not Joe Biden and not Donald Trump!!

WAKE UP TAXPAYERS: The aid for these millions and millions and millions of illegal immigrants is never going to end!!!
GB September 26, 2023, 10:53 pm PK, a goat could win the election and we would be far better off than the idiot we have in there now.
If it comes down to Biden and anyone else, I will not be voting for Biden. He needs to move to China and take his crackhead son with him.
PK September 27, 2023, 11:31 am GB...Right on!! On GMA this morning, I see if they pass a spending bill that will fund America until early November, there is included SIX BILLION DOLLARS for the Ukraine. Can you believe it? Guess that shows how much this administration cares about seniors, the poor, and our military members. Thanks a lot, Mr. President!! May your future be as miserable as you're making ours!!