Opinion : Letter to the Editor: Voters Rights

By Vinton Today · July 14, 2021, 3:55 am

Dear Editor:

With the action by various Governors signing laws redefining election laws -- just exactly who is deprived of their right to cast a legitimist vote? As I see it any U.S. citizen eighteen years or over can cast a vote in the precinct that they are registered in is this denying a legit vote? - Is the last statement untrue? Why then are the Democrats including our now President Joe Biden campaigning against these legitimate laws passed by legitimate State Legislatures and signed into law by the various Governors?

Is it a repression of vote requiring an eligible person to vote in the Precinct they are registered in? If that is not required then they will be able to vote in numerous precincts without restriction. Would that be voter Fraud?? Yee Gods the Dem plus our President are off the rails.

I routinely buy adult beverages at my local grocery. Young checkout ladies routinely ask me my birth date (July 25,1941) am I upset? - no they are doing as instructed. Am I upset when at my local Theisen's asked me to produce an ID to legitimate my charge account --- no this prevents fraud? Good Grief get real.

Isaiah 5,20

They say that what is right is wrong, and what is wrong is right; that black is white and white is black; bitter is sweet and sweet is bitter. One so ancient is writing what is valid today.

Regards,

John Stiegelmeyer

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GB July 14, 2021, 10:35 am John, you are right on point. You have to have an ID/ Drivers license to drive a vehicle or show ID to do just about anything.
These new laws being passed in various states are more about ensuring that the legitimate votes count and they make it a lot harder for illegal votes to count. Any person with an ounce of common sense knows it makes sense.
All these Democrats raising concerns and inciting panic over these laws have yet to produce one single victim that has a legitimate claim to being denied the right to cast a vote. You can watch any national news station and they never produce a single person. Of course, you should have an ID to vote! Can you imagine if they were making the same claim about traveling on commercial airlines? There is a reason why we have to show an ID to do so many things in our society and there is a clear reason as to why we should be required to show an ID to vote. Any nitwit with half a brain knows this. Of course, there will always be a few democrats who will argue it but they are also the ones who try to convince the rest of us that men are women and women are men and that everything else that is morally correct is racist and wrong. This is what happens when we put nitwits in charge who are the biggest reasons why we have warning labels on things. Remember, each warning label has the name of some nitwit attached to it that did something that common sense should have told them not to do. Unfortunately, most of the time it is one of these nitwits with the biggest mouth forcing the majority to listen to them when common sense should tell us otherwise.

RB July 14, 2021, 5:50 pm What was the purpose of all these changes in voting laws? We had the most successful primary and general election turnout ever. Shouldn't we try to make it as easy as possible to vote? Republicans keep saying the election was stolen. You forget to mention that John. Why is that? Do you actually believe the "big lie" being spread by Trump. There have been dozens of audits and court cases and all of them found no widespread cases of election fraud that would impact an election. In fact there were as many dead Republicans voting for Trump! lol

We should have longer voting periods and, without question, be able to vote by mail. This is another example of our government trying to solve problems that don't exist.

NG July 14, 2021, 7:44 pm In Iowa early voting has gone from 40 days to 29 days and now to 20 days. Mail in ballots are also now at 20 days. You may think that sounds like a lot but consider handicapped people who have to rely on the mail and then consider Louis DeJoy who was put in place by trump to slow up the mail to mess with mail-in ballots. Anyone who puts their ballot in the mail better hope it gets to them on time and they get it out asap so it gets there on time to be counted.

The reason all the new voter suppression laws are being passed are to make it harder to vote, harder for black and brown people to vote. It was just stated that if mail-in ballots had been mailed to all the black and brown people in Texas Abbott would have lost his last election. That is why he is writing so many restrictions against them and blows your "any citizen 18 yrs or over can vote theory" out of the water. In many states that is not true. John you obviously are not paying attention or maybe it is just because you are republican and you refuse to comprehend that there could possibly be two sides.

Did you realize that in some states with the new laws if a state is run by republicans and they decide they suspect fraud they can throw all the results out and declare the republican the winner. Just like that all the people who voted, their votes are null and void for no reason other than suspicion of fraud, no proof needed.

Texas is one of the hardest places for black and brown people to vote, and that is because republicans don't want them to vote. Republicans are destroying our democracy. Are you proud of that? I will say again you are not very well informed about what is going on in this country today.

I listen to Fox occasionally just so I know what they are saying and I promise you they are lying to you. Fox and trump are still pushing the big lie. Now the other day when Fox was broadcasting C-Pac they had to run a disclaimer across the bottom of the screen when trump was talking to cover themselves because they are already being sued for lying.

You need to branch out a bit and get your information from someplace that will tell you the truth. You certainly don't have it now.

Norma Gould.

TF July 15, 2021, 12:10 am John and Gerald, just curious:

When is the last time you've had a conversation with an African American that has lasted more than a minute or two about anything at all?

Thanks!

Todd Frank

GB July 16, 2021, 12:30 am Really Todd??? Must you really fall back on the race card? Don't you think it is time for new material? Just because there is an opinion which differs from the far left, does not make that person a racist. I'm sorry to disappoint you with some response that would fit the agenda you are pushing. When one has to bring race in and start implying the person with a different opinion is racist, "they" themselves are the real racist.

GB July 16, 2021, 12:44 am Norma, I see once more you are making claims wile offering no evidence of anything. Then turn around and make a claim against a national news outlet. Free speech guarantees our right to say what we want and I get that. Yet if you are serious about the claim that one state is harder to vote in for African Americans or any other race, at least cite the source so people can at least see where you come up with this stuff. When you just allow words to tumble out with no facts or filter, it hurts the message you are sending. Most of the comments you blurt out are clearly not very well thought out first and therefore might be better served if they were printed on a fish wrapper.

TF July 17, 2021, 2:03 am Gerald, you never answered my question.

PM July 17, 2021, 10:10 am Todd,
Apparently the qualification to weigh in on voting laws is related somehow to whether or not you've held a conversation with a black person? Do we ask black lawmakers if they've held a conversation with white people before passing laws that affect white people? Or do we ask black people the last time they've held a conversation with white people? I'm not sure why this matters. It seems weird to me that this is somehow related to the conversation. Voting laws apply to everyone EQUALLY. After all, like VP Kamala Harris said, it's hard for those of us in rural areas to find a copier.

GB July 17, 2021, 7:42 pm Todd, I did not know I have to. I do not see where that is any of your business. You tried to make it a race issue and you do not even know what race I am. It would shock you I'm sure. Your bridging race into this conversation would make you the one who is racist.

TF July 17, 2021, 8:38 pm Patty,

No, the qualification to weigh in on voting laws is not related somehow to whether or not one has held a conversation with a black person.

On the other hand, a large number of Americans, a group that includes many African Americans, believe that proposed changes in voting laws are a way of suppressing the African American vote. A large enough number that I was curious as to whether Gerald or John (at the point of my original response but anyone, for that matter) has had the opportunity to discuss this with anyone from the Black community. I, for one, have not. Unfortunately, we live in a demographic that doesn’t easily afford us such an opportunity.

DL July 19, 2021, 9:48 am Gerald (The Nitwit) Bates, you're not paying very good attention to what's going on in this country. Stiegelmeyer just doesn't understand what he's hearing and seeing. You claim that there's no evidence the someone wasn't able to vote, because of the new suppression laws being passed by state legislatures. There hasn't been an election, so there can't be any evidence, "nitwit". In states like Texas and Georgia, there are many places where minorities must vote in one place. The lines at these places were up to 10 hours long. This doesn't happen anywhere, where mostly white citizens vote. But, with the new law in Georgia, those people in line for 10 hours, can't eat or drink anything, the whole time. That borders on Cruel and Unusual punishment. The only possible reason for this law is to prevent those people from voting. Now, you said, more than once, that Norma didn't have any facts in her statement. Any law that says the Republican Legislature can/will choose the winners of our elections, based on their opinion, IS TAKING THE RIGHT TO VOTE OUT OF THE HANDS OF ALL CITIZENS. Yes, they'll be able to pull the levers, or fill in the circles of a ballot. But it won't mean anything. Well, I'm done wasting my time on a "nitwit" like you.

PM July 19, 2021, 10:02 am Todd,
It may be news to Democrat voters, but not all black people think alike. Even on voter I.D. I've spent hours talking with black people on the topic. I must be an odd duck, but I actually had to stop and think if I had any black friends. Then realized that I had just spent 4 hours talking to a friend, oh yeah, that was black. What is this obsession with the color of skin? To ME that itself is racist. When we have to qualify a conversation based on the color of the wrapping around a mind, we are in a bad place. Yet, we hear this rhetoric nonstop. Oh, and the take away, the belief with this mind wrapped in black skin, is that there isn't suppression, but it sells votes. They themselves pointed out all the things that require an I.D. You won't hear from a single black person on the news saying that, but on the street you will.

MP July 19, 2021, 1:17 pm Hey Darrin, funny you call someone a nitwit, when you spew half truths. Georgia doesn't prohibit water to voters in line, only who can hand out the water. Also, they have expanded early voting days. Some suppression huh?

GB July 19, 2021, 2:34 pm Darrin (Biden) Lindsey, You more often than not, do not have the facts straight either. It was not that long ago that you were attempting to compare Antifa to the US soldiers who stormed Normandy France. That pretty much sums up everything right there. Again you cite no actual information. You just let the words tumble out.
Look what is going on in Cuba. I do not see the liberals supporting those protests. The Cuban people are trying to make their country more like America and you liberals are trying to make America more like Cuba under a socialist government.